tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post4615722231609617185..comments2024-02-03T20:31:14.145+13:00Comments on Voyaging with Annie Hill: The Transformation of "Joshua"Annie Hillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-80253710603356889022018-03-10T09:57:00.872+13:002018-03-10T09:57:00.872+13:00Indeed these sails can go to windward. Fantail, w...Indeed these sails can go to windward. Fantail, with her cambered sail went better than she had under her bermudian rig, with its poorly-setting roller furling headsail. However, you do need to have either camber in the sail, or articulated battens for the best result to windward. As soon as the wind is free, she will sail at least as fast as her sister and running will outperform any other boat, that isn't flying a spinnaker!<br /><br />Of course, if you put junk rig on a boat that doesn't sail well under bermudian or gaff rig, it won't sail well under junk rig. Don't be mean with the sail area - the rig is so easy to reef that you don't need to worry. If you remember that bermudian rigged boats set big sails if they really want to sail in light winds, you will realise that you need to build this in to your junk sail(s).Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-46157665192434980202018-02-21T17:01:22.018+13:002018-02-21T17:01:22.018+13:00Hello Annie,
Great job of the junk rigged transfo...Hello Annie, <br />Great job of the junk rigged transformation.<br />I would like to know if this kind of sails can have good results to go windward ?<br />I suppose that the performance are often lest good than a bermudian rig.<br />Maybe it depends also of the form of the profile, more or less curved, of the hull/keel forms, or others things.<br />Thanks if there is a reply,(sorry for my average english, i'm french)<br />Fair winds<br />KioKiowahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17574175843654148253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-39086780573094295922017-11-12T17:50:05.575+13:002017-11-12T17:50:05.575+13:00Hi Sen. I am building my new boat in Norsand Boat...Hi Sen. I am building my new boat in Norsand Boatyard in Whangarei and will probably be here for a couple of years, yet. The Beachcomber looks like a nice, roomy little boat and the twin keels should be perfect for exploring around Northland.<br /><br />The camber between the battens is to give some shape to the sail. If you find the thought of sewing a shaped sail a bit daunting you might prefer to put a joint in the battens instead. David Tyler has done this many a time and there is quite a lot about articulated battens on the Junk Rig Association website.<br /><br />Sewing a flat sail is actually terribly easy and nothing to be frightened of. My friend Alan is based in the BOI, sailing "Zebedee" and has made several sails. I'm sure he'd be only too happy to talk to you about it, if you were to contact him. You can find his details in the membership list.<br /><br />As for the mast, I made - and am making - a hybrid mast with alloy for the bottom and douglas fir for the top. Ullrich Aluminium provided the tube. For a small boat, you might be able to find a flagpole to suit. Again, heaps of advice available on the website. You can also investigate carbon-fibre reinforced fibreglass, but that will be quite expensive.<br /><br />Best of luckAnnie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-51396166879125941062017-11-12T00:06:22.854+13:002017-11-12T00:06:22.854+13:00If you are still in Whangarei or BOI I would love ...If you are still in Whangarei or BOI I would love to meet you. We are now the proud owners of a 6.5m Beachcomber, flush deck & bilge keel model, sold without a mast. I will be using your fantail pictures as a model for the rig, although I confess I do not understand at all the purpose of the "camber between the battens", and I fear the actual sewing of such a sail is beyond me. But that's for later; first I need the mast, then I will know what the sail can be. Do you have a source for the aluminium mast? Sen McGlinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937358435662369814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-24332748752507694032016-06-01T09:38:05.783+12:002016-06-01T09:38:05.783+12:00A French junk I met recently, had successfully fib...A French junk I met recently, had successfully fibreglassed his battens - with epoxy - which is what gave me the idea. Once I'm living on the boat, it would be more difficult for me to get access to a suitable grove of bamboos, even up here. I want to keep maintenance down to a minimum and also like to try out inexpensive ideas that last, for other people to use.Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-87741009370418983002016-05-29T22:20:42.643+12:002016-05-29T22:20:42.643+12:00I doubt the fibreglass would cling to the bamboo c...I doubt the fibreglass would cling to the bamboo consistently enough to discourage rot, and I had no rot problems anyway. Bamboo can be replaced every few years, if you are in the north. Sen McGlinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937358435662369814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-41744943058992403952016-05-29T12:24:06.734+12:002016-05-29T12:24:06.734+12:00Hi Sen. Thank your for that - all very interestin...Hi Sen. Thank your for that - all very interesting. Because of the size of my sail, I was thinking of glassing the bamboos, to make them stiffer and to discourage rot. I would be inclined to attach the lines to the bamboos, myself. I don't like them attached directly to the sail, although the ideal, I think, is to attach the sail to the bamboo and then the sheets to the same place so that all three are working together. As you say, there's heaps of bamboo around here - in fact it's an invasive weed - so I shall certainly follow up this idea. Many thanks. Do come and have a yarn if you are in Whangarei!Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-67738129030865256332016-05-13T22:06:24.810+12:002016-05-13T22:06:24.810+12:00I did not dry my bamboo at all: the bundle of bamb...I did not dry my bamboo at all: the bundle of bamboo and sail lies quite flat enough in the cradle of lines when the sail is down. My battens were laced to the sail, which meant they got plenty of air. If you have them in pockets you might want to take them out now and then. But you could also use the pocket just as strengthening for the laces. I burnt holes through the sail with a hot wire, and laced with braided nylon. I also drilled holes in the aft end of the battens for a lace to attach the control lines, which worked fine. A more prudent approach would be to sew a triangular tag on the sail with an eye or lace for the control line, but when I did mine I no longer had a sewing machine. If a batten had split at the end, I had spare battens on board.<br /><br />My sail was 20m2, I am guessing yours will be 30m2, so everything will have to be scaled up. Northland is an excellent place to get bamboo. Just look for a suitable shelterbelt and ask permission to cut some. The best tool for the job is a battery powered reciprocating saw, and loppers and secateurs to clean up the branches. And leather gloves if possible. <br /><br />Sen McGlinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937358435662369814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-56265297477950449702016-05-13T08:54:33.653+12:002016-05-13T08:54:33.653+12:00"Sen McGlinn has left a new comment on your p...<br />"Sen McGlinn has left a new comment on your post "The Transformation of "Joshua"":<br /><br />Dear Annie,<br /><br />you mention selling Fantail: let me know if she's still for sale. I also have a yarn or two about sailing a 20' shallow-draft junk around the Hauraki Gulf and Bay of Islands, 30 years ago. And how to step a timber mast single-handed without a crane. For your next set of battens: I have used bamboo with great success. I carried a few spares on deck, but never needed one, except as a boat-hook extender."<br /><br />He also left his phone number, which I inadvertently published and then had to remove!<br /><br />Sen, I'm afraid Fantail was snapped up. I'd love to hear more about your little junk. I've been thinking about using bamboos, but have not yet found any. Not looked very hard in truth. I believe they need careful drying out before using them, so should really start looking seriously.<br /><br />AnnieAnnie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-72449985317906225632016-04-12T21:26:59.771+12:002016-04-12T21:26:59.771+12:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Sen McGlinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15937358435662369814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-81076958778568055722015-11-02T19:20:26.888+13:002015-11-02T19:20:26.888+13:00Hi Robin: I'm afraid your Centaur won't te...Hi Robin: I'm afraid your Centaur won't tempt me. I want another wooden boat. But don't let that stop you sailing across to NZ, selling the Centaur and then buying 'Fantail'!Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-43414807951885208452015-10-14T08:44:18.696+13:002015-10-14T08:44:18.696+13:00Can I part exchange my Westerly Centaur (26' L...Can I part exchange my Westerly Centaur (26' LOA; 1m draught)? I have already threatened to sail it across the Atlantic - so a bit further would be OK I suppose.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11911304615348936567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-62293739609262315712015-10-14T08:34:20.900+13:002015-10-14T08:34:20.900+13:00Hi Robin
Well, if you really like her, you can co...Hi Robin<br /><br />Well, if you really like her, you can come and buy her! i am building another boat - also 26 ft, but with shoal draught so that I can properly explore my chosen cruising ground, here in New Zealand. I'm asking $23,000 for 'Fantail' and for that you get a fully-functioning, very attractive little cruising home.<br /><br />AnnieAnnie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-38987575789094666842015-10-13T10:35:38.095+13:002015-10-13T10:35:38.095+13:00That is one great looking sailboat, Annie. I thin...That is one great looking sailboat, Annie. I think it is a huge improvement on the original. When can you come and do mine???Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11911304615348936567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-81274788850219858912015-06-08T10:27:37.675+12:002015-06-08T10:27:37.675+12:00Hi Ian
I made my battens from T6 aluminium. Quit...Hi Ian<br /><br />I made my battens from T6 aluminium. Quite difficult to get here, so you may need to go a size up. If you join the Junk Rig Association, you will find a lot of information about this sort of stuff. It's only about $15 for the basic membership, but I recommend you going for the $50 choice, which give you 3 high-quality paper magazines per annum. While I am a fanatic of my e-reader, magazines just don't work on a computer. You want to flick back and forth, compare the photo in Issue 58 with the one in 64, show them to friends, scale off drawings, etc. <br /> What size boat is it that you are thinking of rigging? 6m are long battens - the longest usually available is 5m. If you need something longer, there's a lot to be said for putting in a wooden plug at either end to bring them to length. This also makes it easier to attach the sail.<br /> We have quite a few members in NZ, so you might find someone in your area.<br /><br />Annie<br /><br />Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-5727081364804201422015-06-06T14:38:21.305+12:002015-06-06T14:38:21.305+12:00Hello Annie,
Greetings from British Columbia, whe...Hello Annie, <br />Greetings from British Columbia, where of course it's the other side of the year relative to NZ. <br /><br />Just reread "Voyaging on a Small Income' and your article in Good Old Boat on the creation of the junk rig for Fantail. Great writing--has me stirred me to make my own boat more user-friendly. Mine's a home-designed and -built 11M, 10-ton double-ender, presently a lug-rigged ketch with 850' area with sails that can be set up either dipping or standing. I chose to go that route after initially planning to junk rig, because the quote I received for a sailmaker to cobble a set of sails was so much steeper for the junk version. I'm encouraged by your efforts to go ahead and make my own. With that in mind, I'd be very interested to know how yours has worked out now that you've had it for a while. For instance, are you happy with the cloth you used? Do you think the lens-shaped panels were worth the effort and design complication? Do you think that having a single sail is preferable to, say, the cat-schooner arrangement you had on 'Badger", or would you ideally have multiple sails/masts? Your version of the junk sail is certainly beautiful and appears to stand well. Any other advice you'd care to relate??<br /><br />Keep up the writing--makes us all aware that we're not alone in our craziness!<br /><br />Nicol Warn (nwarn@telus.net) <br />Nicol Warnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-73448143434052383732015-06-04T14:35:39.416+12:002015-06-04T14:35:39.416+12:00Kia Ora Annie
what a wonderful story.
Fantail look...Kia Ora Annie<br />what a wonderful story.<br />Fantail looks so 'right' with the rig.<br />A couple of questions if you don't mind?<br />What did you make your battens from?<br />and, could you tell me where you sourced the aluminium tube for the mast? (I am also in NZ and my google searches don't seem to come up with anything 6.00 x 150mm)<br />thanks<br />IanIanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02223703197817055472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-54308641860958608712015-05-18T16:21:59.508+12:002015-05-18T16:21:59.508+12:00I see there are one or two comments here that I ha...I see there are one or two comments here that I haven't replied to. It took me a while to work out how to do it!<br /><br />Wayne asked the purpose of the lenses: well they are to provide the camber. Can I notice the difference? No, because I never sailed with a flat junk sail on the boat, but Alan, who converted Zebedee from flat sails to cambered ones most certainly notices the difference.<br /><br />How does she self steer and handle in close quarters? Very well. In fact on most points of sailing - assuming a flat sea - I can leave the helm for a minute or so at a time, to go below to check the chart or put the kettle on, etc. The wind vane is great. I usually sail on and off my anchor, which tells you how she sails in close quarters.<br /><br />Fred: I was touched and delighted by your comment. I reckon I have such a wonderful life that it's great to be able to share it with people.<br />Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-86442660624286188822015-05-17T07:59:10.103+12:002015-05-17T07:59:10.103+12:00HI Annie,
Love your books, your Fantail, your appr...HI Annie,<br />Love your books, your Fantail, your approach overall. Many of us (your "fans"?) have likely sailed most of our lives, but you, though saying you may not be much of a sailor, have shown everyone what a sailor really is. You got, and still get, it done. And show everyone that it can be done at a very modest cost.<br />Fred, Long Island, NY, USAFrednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-27581568109444417332014-08-14T17:02:33.727+12:002014-08-14T17:02:33.727+12:00Hi Tom
Go to the Junk Rig Association website whe...Hi Tom<br /><br />Go to the Junk Rig Association website where you will find heaps of information about boats that have been converted to junk rig. I'm not sure that anyone has done an H28, yet, but there are plenty of a similar size.Annie Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839484196732830052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-59847660664581675632014-06-25T20:28:00.014+12:002014-06-25T20:28:00.014+12:00Hi Annie,
I have been reading about junk rigs I ow...Hi Annie,<br />I have been reading about junk rigs I own an H28 which hardly goes out due to reluctant family so being able to sail single handed - safely. I am impressed with the work you put into Joshua.<br />Do you know of ant links to dimensions for different sized vessels?<br />Regards<br />Tom<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-69373272776692897502014-04-23T01:03:52.478+12:002014-04-23T01:03:52.478+12:00Hi Annie; Thank you for this great article describ...Hi Annie; Thank you for this great article describing an useful project where resources are stretched. I see I have missed many life events between VOASI and the current article. Please write more! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-52295430362764761212014-03-07T23:21:46.260+13:002014-03-07T23:21:46.260+13:00Great write-up, thank you Annie.
I'm inspired ...Great write-up, thank you Annie.<br />I'm inspired by your mast. I have been getting quotes for wood, aluminium, steel, fibreglass and carbon - all of them breathtakingly expensive.<br />But like you, i can get 6m of ally tube for under $500. And though i don't have the space to build a 10m mast, i think i can find room to work up 4m of mast.<br />My boat is a 28 foot long-keeled GRP sloop made in Oz in 1974.<br />I reckon she's perfect for a junk, and have been a fan ever since VOASI. Then i went on the JRA rally in 2008 aboard Robin Blain's boat, and was hooked even more.<br />Cheers, and thanks once again for the inspiration.<br />Matt<br />matt at waite dot netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-70292318372346678012012-02-18T02:29:22.652+13:002012-02-18T02:29:22.652+13:00Nice article on sail boat, I look forward for more...Nice article on sail boat, I look forward for more about<a href="http://www.fareastsails.com" rel="nofollow"> sailboa</a>t. Thanks for sharing.fareastsailshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13800248805290187405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28092890.post-42873897399185817512011-12-02T16:42:27.243+13:002011-12-02T16:42:27.243+13:00Annie I've been a fan since VOASI
how does she...Annie I've been a fan since VOASI<br />how does she self steer and how does she handle in close quarters?<br />Paddlevan<br />Paddlevan (at) gmail (dot) comPaddlevanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06072339679833053809noreply@blogger.com